{"id":2069,"date":"2011-10-03T10:27:00","date_gmt":"2011-10-03T14:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2069"},"modified":"2011-10-03T10:27:00","modified_gmt":"2011-10-03T14:27:00","slug":"post-nerf-heroic-alysrazor-a-huge-disappointment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/post-nerf-heroic-alysrazor-a-huge-disappointment\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-Nerf Heroic Alysrazor: A Huge Disappointment"},"content":{"rendered":"

24 pulls is all it took us and Alysrazor collapsed<\/a>.<\/p>\n

It took us 46 pulls to get her down on normal.<\/p>\n

Something<\/em> ain’t right here.<\/p>\n

(Yes, I’m still<\/span> talking about nerfs.)<\/p>\n

Do I want<\/strong> to wipe more on a boss like Alysrazor? No, not particularly. But I don’t feel as though we earned the kill. Granted, our kill was near-perfect execution, except for Majik’s Mumble client dying on him and Kaleri dropping her Power Word: Barrier on the other side of town at the pull. ;) And I could have done without some of the deaths we had, to be sure… but it went very smoothly. If we can do that every time, we’ll have no problems killing her every single week on heroic.<\/p>\n

However, it just feels as though Alysrazor has been de-clawed, had her wings clipped, whatever.<\/p>\n

Tornadoes move just as slowly in heroic as they do on normal.<\/p>\n

Firestorm won’t automatically kill you if you don’t line of sight it, not if you’re healed up and use a defensive CD. (Our pally tank app ate a Firestorm while still working on a hatchling. He put up Ardent Defender and blew Lay on Hands and lived with plenty of health to spare.)<\/p>\n

The biggest challenge, it seemed, was re-allocating DPS.<\/p>\n

I’m sorry, but is that all there is to heroic Firelands bosses?<\/p>\n

Let’s examine them, shall we?<\/p>\n

Normal Shannox: Some people on dogs, some people on Shannox.
\nHeroic Shannox: Just about every single person on Shannox, a few people on various dogs for slows and breaking Face Rage.<\/p>\n

So that’s a simple reallocation of DPS.<\/p>\n

Normal Rhyolith: Some people on Fragments and Sparks, some people on legs.
\nHeroic Rhyolith: Same as above — stun\/slow\/blowback Liquid Obsidium.<\/p>\n

Another reallocation of DPS, but I’ll admit, this one was effing tricky — at least pre-nerf.<\/p>\n

Normal Beth’tilac: Some people on caves, some people on spinners and drones, some people on top of the web.
\nHeroic Beth’tilac: Same as above — and then blow up the Engorged Broodlings.<\/p>\n

Same damn thing, more reallocation of DPS and some healing, but the worst part about this fight was making sure caves were covered. Once we had that down, the boss died.<\/p>\n

And now…<\/p>\n

Normal Alysrazor: Some people up top, some people on Initiates, some people on hatchlings. Dodge Brushfire, Tornadoes, Lava Spew and Incendiary Clouds.
\nHeroic Alysrazor: Same as above — plus dodge Firestorm and Meteors and Boulders.<\/p>\n

Really? I mean… it’s just not that difficult. I’d say it’s actually easier than normal because the hatchlings die so quickly. The worst part here isn’t even the Firestorm, it’s making sure Initiates die quickly enough that interrupters can interrupt them.<\/p>\n

At least Majordomo Staghelm has a “real” new mechanic in Concentration. I’m looking forward to that fight, but am prepared to be “meh” about it.<\/p>\n

It makes me sad. It feels very much as though these “heroic modes” are like “normal” modes now that the nerfs have gone through, at least to an experienced raid group. I’m sure Ragnaros will be different, of course, and it’s not like the challenge has completely vanished from heroic Firelands… but I didn’t enjoy heroic Alysrazor. At all. And, prior to our work on heroic Alysrazor, that was my favourite fight<\/a>. I really didn’t feel as though I was healing with finesse last night — I felt as though all I was doing was praying that my tank wouldn’t get two-shotted or that people wouldn’t fall out of the sky or die to tornadoes.<\/p>\n

I spent the vast majority of our time on Heroic Alysrazor just hoping we could execute it, but there wasn’t anything to figure out after the first 10ish pulls. We tried a couple new variations last night and eventually just said screw it and went back to what we’d been doing, essentially, with very minor tweaking to get Initiates down.<\/p>\n

And then, on one glorious attempt when most people didn’t die or disconnect or anything… she died.<\/p>\n

Totally anticlimactic.<\/p>\n

Am I proud? Of course. Am I pleased that we’re 4\/7? Absolutely.<\/p>\n

But ultimately, I got more of a sense of accomplishment at knowing that we budgeted our raid time this week extremely well (repeat of H Rhyolith and H Shannox, plus first kills of H Beth and H Alysrazor and a full clear and we even did Volcanus!) than I did when we downed Alysrazor.<\/p>\n

Sad.<\/p>\n

Please, don’t let raiding be this ridiculous in 4.3.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

24 pulls is all it took us and Alysrazor collapsed. It took us 46 pulls to get her down on normal. Something ain’t right here. (Yes, I’m still talking about nerfs.) Do I want to wipe more on a boss like Alysrazor? No, not particularly. But I don’t feel as though we earned the kill. […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,51,93,76,19,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2069","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apotheosis","category-facepalm","category-firelands","category-guild","category-raiding","category-ramblings"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2069","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2069"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2069\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2069"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2069"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2069"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}