{"id":2074,"date":"2011-10-13T11:51:50","date_gmt":"2011-10-13T15:51:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2074"},"modified":"2011-10-13T11:51:50","modified_gmt":"2011-10-13T15:51:50","slug":"pondering-the-glory","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/pondering-the-glory\/","title":{"rendered":"Pondering the Glory"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So how are people out there dealing with the possibility of getting the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5828\" target=\"_blank\">Glory of the Firelands Raider<\/a> achievement?<\/p>\n<p>Back in Wrath, the guild I was in hit 11\/12 25-man HM and then immediately did a full reset of achievement stuff. We did <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=4622\" target=\"_blank\">Neck-Deep in Vile<\/a> that week and then the next week, did <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=4621\" target=\"_blank\">Been Waiting a Long Time for This<\/a>, which resulted in getting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=4603\" target=\"_blank\">Glory of the Icecrown Raider<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In Tier 11, we got to 7\/13 HM before Firelands came out (Halfus, V&amp;T, Magmaw, Maloriak, Chimaeron, Atramedes, Conclave), so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=4853\" target=\"_blank\">Glory of the Cataclysm Raider<\/a> wasn&#8217;t even a possibility for us, as we were missing, you know, 5 heroic kills.<\/p>\n<p>Due to the nerfs, we will likely hit 5\/7 HM tonight or Sunday (Majordomo) and after a break for BlizzCon, we&#8217;ll tackle heroic Baleroc. (I think we would have hit 6\/7 HM without the nerfs, but it would have taken longer.)<\/p>\n<p>Since six of the achievements required for the meta will be already done (the six heroic bosses) and since we regularly do <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5830\" target=\"_blank\">Share the Pain<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5799\" target=\"_blank\">Only the Penitent&#8230;<\/a> is really easy to do and isn&#8217;t even part of the boss encounter&#8230; that leaves four achievements:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5829\">Bucket List<\/a> &#8211; Shannox<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5810\">Not an Ambi-Turner<\/a> &#8211; Rhyolith<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5821\">Death from Above<\/a> &#8211; Beth&#8217;tilac<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/achievement=5813\">Do a Barrel Roll<\/a> &#8211; Alysrazor<\/p>\n<p>To me, it&#8217;s a no-brainer to take a reset or two (to get everyone covered) and get these guys down on <em>normal<\/em> to get the achievements. However, the fact remains that Shannox and Alysrazor drop heroic tier tokens and the other bosses drop valuable heroic loot (oh god, I want a heroic <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wowhead.com\/item=71408\" target=\"_blank\">Ward of the Red Widow<\/a>!).<\/p>\n<p>Given that we don&#8217;t know when 4.3 will drop (although I&#8217;d be surprised if it&#8217;s before American Thanksgiving, in late November), we don&#8217;t know how many resets we have before the new raid opens up. It&#8217;s safe to say that we&#8217;ll move on to the new raid once it opens.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, there is a finite amount of resets left between now and 4.3. Will using two (because, with a roster of ~34, we&#8217;ll NEED two) resets to get the meta achievement be worth two resets of heroic loot off those bosses? Better question: do we need to do all of them on normal? Shannox isn&#8217;t so hard on heroic, maybe we could get away with kiting him forever, but I know we could do it on normal.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not even going to talk about time spent on that versus heroic Ragnaros. That&#8217;s a whole other question in and of itself.<\/p>\n<p>So how are you fine people handling this in your guilds? Are you? Do you even care? I&#8217;ve got a poll up on the Apotheosis forums, asking the raiders what they think of the meta, but I&#8217;m curious to know how others are dealing with it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So how are people out there dealing with the possibility of getting the Glory of the Firelands Raider achievement? Back in Wrath, the guild I was in hit 11\/12 25-man HM and then immediately did a full reset of achievement stuff. We did Neck-Deep in Vile that week and then the next week, did Been [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[74,5,93,14,19,3,94],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2074","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-achievements","category-apotheosis","category-firelands","category-gear","category-raiding","category-ramblings","category-t12"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2074","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2074"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2074\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2074"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2074"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2074"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}