{"id":2641,"date":"2013-12-12T04:43:43","date_gmt":"2013-12-12T09:43:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2641"},"modified":"2013-12-12T04:43:43","modified_gmt":"2013-12-12T09:43:43","slug":"hearthstone-battletags","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kurn.info\/blog\/hearthstone-battletags\/","title":{"rendered":"Hearthstone &#038; BattleTags"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Well, it&#8217;s been nearly a month since I last posted and, thus, last ranted in this space. ;) (Actually, my last post wasn&#8217;t too bad and actually included <em>praise<\/em>, so hey, go me!)<\/p>\n<p>A new <em>Hearthstone<\/em> closed beta patch launched this week (1.0.0.4217) and lots of things changed. I&#8217;m in favour of many of the changes, ambivalent about others, but I&#8217;m quite annoyed at a specific change.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;New Feature: Recently played Opponent \u2013 Your friends list now displays the last person you played against, provided they were not a Real ID or BattleTag friend. If you had a particularly great match against someone, you can now friend them for future play!&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/us.battle.net\/hearthstone\/en\/blog\/11868609\/hearthstone%E2%84%A2-closed-beta-patch-notes-1004217-become-a-legend-12-10-2013\" target=\"_blank\">Source<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>How do they do this? By actually displaying the BattleTag of the person against whom you last played. Here&#8217;s a (slightly obscured) screenshot of my &#8220;friends list&#8221; that shows the BattleTag of the person whose ass I kicked to get to rank level 23.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kurn.martindaley.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/hslastplayed.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2643\" alt=\"hslastplayed\" src=\"http:\/\/kurn.martindaley.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/hslastplayed-171x300.jpg\" width=\"171\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It does NOT seem to persist after a logout, so if I played you and then logged out and then logged back in, your name would be gone. (Such was the case with DJNOclue.)<\/p>\n<p><em>Kurn,<\/em> you may ask, <em>Kurn, why is this a <strong>problem?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Quite simply, I feel strongly that my BattleTag should not be displayed to anyone but me without my permission.<\/p>\n<p><em>Uh&#8230; why the hell not? It&#8217;s not as though it&#8217;s your <strong>RealID<\/strong> or anything.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Excellent point. (Although I should note for full disclosure that I have actually <a href=\"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2262\" target=\"_blank\">turned RealID <strong>off<\/strong><\/a> on my Battle.net account.)<\/p>\n<p>Putting aside all the issues I have with the incredibly inelegant RealID\/BattleTag chat stuff (and boy, do <a href=\"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2256\" target=\"_blank\">I have issues<\/a>!), let&#8217;s look at how things came to be in order to perhaps better understand my issues.<\/p>\n<p>Once upon a time, Blizzard created <em>World of Warcraft<\/em>. Then, they added <em>RealID<\/em>. Then, they added BattleTags. None of these things were actually necessary to play this game or, another contemporary of WoW, <em>Starcraft II<\/em>. However, when <em>Diablo III<\/em> was released, suddenly, BattleTags were not only created, but were <em>required<\/em> to be created in order to play<em> Diablo III<\/em>. Since I played D3 for a short period of time, I was forced to create a BattleTag. Even once I abandoned the game, my BattleTag persisted. Even though there is no requirement for BattleTags to be used in <em>World of Warcraft<\/em>, I still have one and <em>I cannot get rid of it<\/em>. (Actually, I just opened a ticket through the website to try to get it removed. I am not optimistic, but we&#8217;ll see!) I believe that they are <em>planning<\/em> to make BattleTags required for everything, but as it stands, you can still play <em>World of Warcraft<\/em> without a BattleTag. (I just created a new Battle.net account and was never prompted to create a BattleTag when creating the account, although there was an <em>option<\/em> to do so once I was in my account management.) Further, there is absolutely no way to go &#8220;offline&#8221; or &#8220;invisible&#8221;, despite the fact that, <a href=\"http:\/\/kurn.apotheosis-now.com\/?p=2368\" target=\"_blank\">more than <em>a year ago<\/em>, Blizzard said Invisible Mode would be implemented &#8220;in the coming months&#8221;<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Why do I need a BattleTag? Well, I don&#8217;t believe I do. So let&#8217;s take a look at the <a href=\"https:\/\/us.battle.net\/support\/en\/article\/battletagfaq\" target=\"_blank\">Battle.net BattleTag FAQ<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A BattleTag nickname is a player-chosen handle that identifies your Battle.net account in Blizzard Entertainment games, websites, community forums, and more. Similar to Real ID, BattleTags give players on Battle.net a way to find and chat with friends they&#8217;ve met in-game, form groups, and stay connected across multiple Blizzard Entertainment games.<\/p>\n<p>BattleTags are required for Diablo III play, where they are used to publically identify players in groups or when chatting in-game, as well as on the Diablo III forums.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>As a player who has been in the <em>Hearthstone<\/em> beta for a few months, I have never once wanted to find and chat with anyone I&#8217;ve met in-game. When playing <em>WoW<\/em>, I hadn&#8217;t really found a compelling reason to even keep <em>RealID<\/em> enabled on my account and never found a compelling reason to give out my BattleTag, even while recruiting for my guild. (It would have made things easier, but I wasn&#8217;t prepared to let potential applicants know where I was in-game, on which server and which character at any given time.)<\/p>\n<p>Further, I do not <em>want<\/em> to &#8220;stay connected across multiple Blizzard Entertainment games&#8221;. As of right now, I&#8217;m only playing one of them, anyhow, and <em>even then<\/em>, I don&#8217;t even want to play <em>Hearthstone<\/em> any longer because my BattleTag is being displayed to every random player I play against!<\/p>\n<p>My objections largely stem from the fact that:<\/p>\n<p>a) I was forced to create a BattleTag in order to play <em>Diablo III<\/em>, which I played to level 50 and haven&#8217;t touched since (more than a year ago)<br \/>\nb) It is always on.<br \/>\nc) It is now being displayed to random players without my permission. (Unless, by &#8220;permission&#8221;, you mean playing the game with another random human being, which is basically all the interesting gameplay in <em>Hearthstone<\/em>. It would be like your BattleTag being displayed to everyone you hit a random dungeon or raid with, in WoW.)<br \/>\nd) Further, your BattleTag, in case you were unaware, is publicly shown to people in the <em>Hearthstone<\/em> forums when you post there. (Just discovered that one tonight.)<\/p>\n<p><em>But you can always decline the invitations!<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Due to my various objections, due to the clunkiness and inelegance of the entire system (see previously linked posts about RealID and such), I have no intentions of accepting any BattleTag invitations. Since I will not accept them, I do not want people to bother me with invitations. So I don&#8217;t give out the information. Period.<\/p>\n<p><em>Is it such a big deal to decline invitations?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Why don&#8217;t you ask <a href=\"http:\/\/eu.battle.net\/wow\/en\/forum\/topic\/8783259019\" target=\"_blank\">people who are on the receiving end<\/a> of <a href=\"http:\/\/eu.battle.net\/wow\/en\/forum\/topic\/8882729382\" target=\"_blank\">dozens of invitations<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/us.battle.net\/wow\/en\/forum\/topic\/10587378810\" target=\"_blank\">gold selling spammers<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p><em>While you&#8217;re probably still being overly weird about this RealID\/BattleTag business, I accept that you&#8217;re not going to change your mind on this. So what do you want out of this situation?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s simple: allow me to remove my BattleTag entirely or, if BattleTags are required for <em>Hearthstone<\/em> (despite the FAQ not saying so), allow me to opt-out of other people being able to see my BattleTag if I play against them in <em>Hearthstone<\/em>, or allow me to turn off BattleTags the way you can turn off RealID. (For all I know, removing my BattleTag would happen if you could turn them off, but in case it&#8217;s a different process or whatever, I include the turning off option.)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been more than 15 months since Blizzard promised various changes to the chat system, including invisible mode, and the fact that they haven&#8217;t yet implemented anything gives us the impression that they&#8217;ve dropped the ball on this. As such, <em><strong>let us turn the thing off<\/strong><\/em>. I don&#8217;t even see why it&#8217;s precisely required for <em>Diablo III<\/em> play, to be honest, but it&#8217;s not required for <em>World of Warcraft<\/em>, I&#8217;m pretty sure it&#8217;s not required for SCII and I&#8217;m hoping it&#8217;s not required for <em>Hearthstone<\/em>, even after this latest patch. I like <em>Hearthstone<\/em> and would hate to feel like I can no longer play it because my BattleTag is on display for all my opponents to see.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Well, it&#8217;s been nearly a month since I last posted and, thus, last ranted in this space. ;) (Actually, my last post wasn&#8217;t too bad and actually included praise, so hey, go me!) A new Hearthstone closed beta patch launched this week (1.0.0.4217) and lots of things changed. 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