11.0 Patch Issues & Stuff

My dudes (and I use that in the gender-neutral way), are things ever borked in the 11.0 patch! It’s actually kind of funny. Even funnier are the chunks of people who are like “eff this, I’m cancelling my sub” and stuff like that. Hi, is this your first patch? 😂

That said, things are kind of broken at the moment. I can’t withdraw more than like 4200 gold out of my bank’s guild bank? And Warband banks are unavailable. They’ve activated an error message that indicates someone else is using your bank and I’m like, “I assure you, that’s not the case, Blizz.”

The bank is being used by another member of your Warband.

As someone who has been playing this game, off and on, since 2005, this all amuses me. As someone who works in tech, I totally get it. Any time you’re working with databases, like “what items does this character own?” or “what transmogs does this character have access to?” and that sort of thing, you have to be super careful. Err on the side of caution. Always. This is why maintenance days are on Tuesdays — to launch things on a Thursday or Friday is just asking for overtime on the weekend.

To read some of the comments in the blue posts on the forums is to lower one’s IQ by a chunk. Someone posited that the warbanks were linked to the beta and that’s why they weren’t working. Like, my dude, no, warbanks are on an entirely different server, that is not accessible by the live servers. That’s why you have to copy your character or make a new, premade one. Never mind the fact that the servers are not likely to be hardcoded. If anything, there’s probably a database entry saying “Kurn has characters on these 18 servers, so make the Warband Bank accessible to all her characters on all those servers” and there’s probably a piece of code saying “if she creates a new character on a new server, please add that to the list”. Or something akin to that.

Then there are people saying that they’re quitting because the game is super broken at the moment. Well, okay, yes, there are bits that are broken. I can’t withdraw a lot of money from my guild bank right now. Some class/spec combos don’t have their new talent trees fully implemented. All of this, though, is going to be temporary.

I have read that some people have lost achievement progress. I guess it’s possible that I have, too? I wasn’t paying much attention to any achievements, to be honest, but I saw someone lost out on their Molten Front achievements by having them reset to 0 or whatever. THAT would suck. I hated the Molten Front dailies. So what do people have to do there? Well, if the devs can retrieve that data (and, presuming they took backups, they can), the decision is will they? Manipulating data is an extreme pain in the ass. Especially if the data’s format has changed from one point to the next point.

Actually, looking at my armory, it looks as though my progress to the loot 200,000 gold achievement has been wiped. I’m at 0/200,000. Now, to be clear, I spend most of my time making money through the auction house, so even though I make a ton of gold, I do not loot a ton, especially since I stopped raiding. But clearly, I should have more than 0 here.

And when I was logging into various toons on Tuesday, when the servers finally came up, I got “Nagrand Slam” on Madrana. So whatever character(s) of mine had different parts of that done, now has been applied to Madrana. Technically, they have to make sure we all have the right achievements applied to the right characters, too. So this becomes incredibly finicky work if something goes awry and you have to move the data from an old backup to the new format. Trust me. It’s not fun and is incredibly time-intensive, especially validating all the data.

That’s another thing, people are complaining about how nothing was tested, blah, blah, blah. Listen. Any time you mess with data, weird shit can happen, okay? I have seen SUCH weirdness occur in the tiniest edge cases possible. Regular use? No problem. 95% of cases? No problem. That last 5% is where the problems are.

I basically do technical support for a living (although not for Blizzard), and this one day, someone was complaining that a product belonging to the company I worked for at the time wasn’t working. Worked fine for me. I asked the customer what time zone they were in. They were in France, which is UTC+1 or +2, depending on the time of year. I, being in Montreal, am in UTC-4 or -5, depending on the time of the year, so I’m 6 hours back. So I messed with my settings and such and made the product think I was in France. And, sure enough, from 6pm to midnight, and only 6pm to midnight, the problem was visible to me. I switched back to my regular timezone, and there were no issues.

So please trust me when I say that this shit is hard. And that they’re working to diagnose what the problem is, then if they can fix it, then should they invest that time and money into fixing it (if they even can), and then how long the fix should take. And they’re weighing all of that. Does it matter to me if I’m at 0/200,000 gold looted? No. Does it matter to me that I can’t withdraw more than about 4200 gold from my guild bank? Yes. Does it matter to me that I can’t use the Warband Bank? Yes. So they’re going to have to do all kinds of thinking and talking about things to see if they can resolve it, and then if they should resolve it. Obviously, the Warband Bank is going to be fixed, so will the guild bank thing. Those are likely to be technical issues that can be resolved. The achievements? I would say probably, but I’m not sure how easy it’s going to be for them to do.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on 11.0.

In the meantime, I had a hilarious time healing on beta as Madrana…

There’s a lot more than just the first couple minutes, you can actually see me starting to heal stuff around the 15-16 minute mark. Watch me lose my tank instantly. Watch me battle-rez! Watch me panic! It’s pretty funny, I promise.

In other news, going back to professions, I think I’m going to keep alchemy on my warrior and drop inscription. I already have inscription on the evoker, and alchemy does have useful cooldowns, such as something called Blasphemite, which is through Thaumatergy and Gleaming… something or another. Coalescence? So I’m mostly (?) okay with having 3-4 alchemists. I’m going to have to be diligent about transmutes and stuff, though, like I was in Pandaland, where I was doing trillium bar transmutes on 3 toons every day.

So, what weirdness have you encountered? What are you up to before the pre-expansion event?

7 Replies to “11.0 Patch Issues & Stuff”

  1. When I read that you do tech support for a living, my first thought went to one word that’s 10 letters: Crowdstrike.

    Uh, sorry about that, but I hope you weren’t swamped by that last Friday.

    But yes, fixing bugs isn’t easy. I completely agree with that. So yeah, bugs in the system don’t bother me much, since I know that given nothing else Blizz is trying to actively fix them. (Bugs in Era, on the other hand, seem to just not be on their radar. I’m still waiting for Blizz to fix a side effect of their merging of the Era servers into clusters by the Social listings having your in-game Friends’ location as “Unknown”.)

    1. Ahahahaa, no, thank god, I did not have to deal with THAT mess. The software I support doesn’t run on Windows, so that helps out a lot. I’m sure some of our customers who run Windows computers had issues, but their installations of our software were completely unaffected by the Crowdstrike nonsense.

      Yeah, I’m not too put out by the bugs. I still can’t withdraw more than my gold on-hand from the guild bank, healthstones weren’t coming off cooldown, the fish for lunker quests weren’t spawning… It’ll all get fixed.

      I’m super pleased the Warband bank is up and running! I am going to save SO MUCH on mailing stuff to alts!

      By “Era”, you mean Classic? I’m sure once TWW officially launches and those fires get put out, they’ll have resources to fix the little things.

  2. My monk’s right fist weapon is sheathed on her back, even when she’s in combat and you can see her using them. It even shows that way on the login screen. Cosmetic, but quite amusing.

    I had one achievement get reset. I was at 9/10 points towards completing it, but now it is back to zero. Unfortunately for that character there are only seven more bits I could gather. If I want the pet from the achievement I’ll have to get through the process on another character.

    I’m basically cleaning out bags, resetting talents, and doing some low-key activities while I wait for the prepatch event. I hope the fix the achievement issues, but as a former programmer I know they are triaging the most critical issues first. Small things can wait until there’s more time.

    I figure I’ll run into more issues as I work on my characters, but I know patience is the best practice for now. :)

    1. Yep, patience is a virtue for a reason!

      Some of the bugs are pretty funny — the weapon being sheathed even as you’re in combat? That’s gold. :D

      Oof, re: achievement. Fingers crossed that gets fixed. Have you opened a ticket about it?

      And yeah, cleaning out bags and talents and stuff is sort of what I’m doing too. I’ve finished levelling things and now can just do some laid back event stuff. I have 139 bank slots free on one character (the most free of any of them) and only 23 on another one. Lots more cleaning to do here!

  3. Pretty sure, they have had achievement progress lost in the past and then they fixed it so nothing was lost.
    as for worst day 1 ever. Meh. pretty sure cata and at least one other had some pretty horrendous bugs.

    Having said the cumulative effects can add up. I logged into a wow 1.1 character after 12 years and 6? expansions and it was pretty broken.

    1. I don’t tend to pay too much attention to achievements, overall, unless I’m actually working on one, and it’s been a long while since I have. I’m glad to know they’ve fixed that sort of thing eventually in the past.

      ahahaha, 12 years! That’s awesome. How broken was it?

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